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  1. Lisa you state - "The only problem I see so far is that there are no lists by those names currently on TennisLink, so what did the Tournament Director’s use for this weekend’s events?" The singles standing list was up, but only for a day or so, and then it was taken down.

  2. Lisa, Different question, is this seeding just for regionals and L2's? What about the Super Nats?

    • That's a good question! Let me try to find the answer for you!

    • just got word that the seeding changes apply to ALL national tournaments.

      • Below is the message that appears on the upcoming 12s National Open website: Seeding Method has Changed !!! The Computerized List Method of seeding will be used for the tournament. Refer to Table 18 in 2013 Friend at Court for the seeding criteria. To view the table, click "more info" more info

  3. Interesting as I did notice that the seeding had changed at the Regional in Dayton for the B18's. Last week my son was a seed. Today he is not!! So typical of the USTA to make changes and then hide them somewhere where nobody can actually see what's going on! I am at the end of the road with 1 child but I have 2 more players that want to go down the same path as my eldest son. I am so burnt out of all of the crazy changes - the rankings and tournament formats and the entry numbers have changed 3 or 4 times in the last 9 years. Would love to discuss my experiences with you.

    • Sheila, please call me any time!

      • Lisa If you hate the USTA then stop playing the tournaments. Don't be a member. Why don't you spend your energy doing something positive for the sport. You are nothing more than a pawn. Why don't you write a story on the success of the women in Australia. Why don't you write a story about the four young American men in the Maui challenger. Promote the success and just stop complaining. It is getting real old!! FYI there are only about 7 people that post on your site. And the guys like Antonio Morna , Lawrence Roddick and Jeff Grant are getting pretty old to listen too.

  4. Long time no see, Sheila :). The way we noticed there had been a change was because Beth Herr Bellamy called me after she saw the seeds change at the Palm Desert tournament and didn't understand why, Clearly not the best way for people to become aware of a rule change. As Lisa said, they apply to supernats, opens and regionals. You can find the new rules here http://assets.usta.com/assets/1/15/Table18-2013-Final.pdf

  5. If any company in the world opperated like this, they would be bankrupt.

  6. TO: JUST STOP, ARE YOU KIDDING ME?????? WE SHOULD STOP COMPLAINING OR STOP "WHINING" ABOUT AN ORGANIZATION THAT IS A NON FOR PROFIT THAT PAYS THEIR "GOOD OLD BOY" NETWORK MILLIONS OF DOLLARS FOR PAY AND IS NEVER ACCOUNTABLE FOR ANYTHING? DO YOU REMEMBER WHEN THEY DECIDED THAT IT WAS BEST....... TO ELIMINATE ALL 12'S COMPETITION BECAUSE UH, WELL WHO KNOWS.... THEY THOUGHT IT WAS IN THE BEST INTEREST OF JUNIORS TO NOT COMPETE IN THE 12'S. AFTER THEY MESSED THAT UP, AND A BUNCH OF KIDS IN THE PROCESS........ THEY GAVE UP THAT IDEA....... NOW WE SHOULD JUST STOP COMPLAINING AS THEY TAKE AWAY JUNIORS CHANCES TO PLAY IN NATIONAL TOURNAMENTS - AND GET SEEN BY COLLEGE COACHES - AND PLAY COLLEGE TENNIS. OH RIGHT, FORGOT... WE SHOULD STOP COMPLAINING THAT OUR STATE UNIVERSITIES FUNDED BY AMERICAN TAXPAYERS SHOULD FUND AN ALL FOREIGN TENNIS TEAM......... THIS WEEK, THEY PUT THROUGH A NEW SEEDING PROCESS THAT AFFECTS ALL JUNIORS IN THIS COUNTRY THAT ARE PLAYING THIS WEEKEND IN REGIONALS. BUT, THEY FORGOT TO TELL ANYONE....... NOT THE JUNIORS, OR THE PARENTS, OR THE TD. SLIPPED THEIR MIND, I GUESS TO LET THE FOLKS WHO ARE ACTUALLY INVOLVED IN A SPORT KNOW WHAT IS GOING ON............ BUT, YOU CAN GO TO THEIR WEBSITE OF THIS NOT FOR PROFIT COMPANY AND SEE AN ADVERTISEMENT FOR CARPET........ ON THE POSITIVE NOTE, AT LEAST THIS WASN'T A SECRET. DO YOU KNOW THE 2014 CHANGES WERE GIVEN TO A FEW FOLKS AND THEY ASKED THEM NOT TO FORWARD, OR EMAIL TO ANYONE.... THANKFULLY, SOME PEOPLE STILL HAVE A MORAL COMPASS AND SENT IT AROUND. YOU WANT TO USE THIS WORD, FINE. YOU ARE THE "PAWN"........ SOMEONE WHO MINDLESSLY KISSES UP TO THE USTA WITHOUT ANY REGARD TO HOW THEY TREAT THEIR MEMBERSHIP....... I CONSIDER FOLKS LIKE YOU MORALLY BANKRUPT AND WISH THAT YOU WOULD "JUST STOP" ............ I CARE ABOUT JUNIOR TENNIS AND HOW THE 2010 AND 2012 AND 2014 CHANGES WILL AFFECT THOUSANDS OF JUNIORS IN 12'S, 14'S, 16'S, AND 18'S FOR THE YEARS TO COME. WHAT DO YOU CARE ABOUT????? A COUPLE OF USTA PD KIDS WHO AFTER GETTING $$$ - GO ON TO PLAY COLLEGE TENNIS? ( OF COURS, THE USTA NEVER ACKNOWLEDGES ALL THE PLAYERS THEY FUND THAT ARE NOT AMERICAN AND THEN GO PLAY FOR THEIR COUNTRY) OR PROTECTING THE GOOD OLD BOY NETWORK WHO HAS NEVER BEEN TO A JUNIOR TOURNAMENT OR DOESN'T EVEN PROPERLY FUND THE TOURNAMENT? I HAVE BEEN TO SECTIONALS...... REGIONALS NATIONALS I HAVEN'T FOUND ONE, THAT'S RIGHT ONE PERSON, WHO IS A FAN OF THE USTA. EVEN THE TD WERE AFRAID TO SPEAK UP ABOUT TEN AND UNDER TENNIS AS THEY THOUGHT THEY WOULD BE "PUNISHED" BY THE USTA. WHAT KIND OF NON FOR PROFIT IS PUNITIVE LIKE THIS???????? BUT, DON'T WORRY, WE WILL BE ALL GONE ON TO THE NEXT ORGANIZATION THAT WILL SPRING UP IF THE 2014 CHANGES GO THROUGH. AND BY THEN, WE WILL HAVE STOPPED WITH THE USTA. AND THANK YOU LISA. YOU ARE DOING A REAL SERVICE FOR JUNIOR TENNIS. YOU CARE ABOUT JUNIORS.

  7. Thanks for the great post, Tennis5. The irony is that folks like "Just Stop" are the ones who have posted the most hateful comments you'll find on Lisa's blog. These folks call for constructive comments and then regularly dole out personal attacks, trash anyone whose opinions they don't like and even attack kids. I guess I should apologize to "Just Stop" for doing the work the USTA should have done in explaining the new seeding changes. I guess that's not constructive because I'm "getting pretty old to listen to." Lisa is doing a phenomenal service to parents and kids by providing information about the competitive junior tennis experience in the U.S. Criticizing her for not also reporting on wins and losses of players abroad is ludicrous. Colette does a marvelous job with that. Lisa's site has a different mission and we are grateful for it.

  8. Just stunned. Pretty harsh stuff from "just stop". Think an arrow must have struck home. As a parent, member, and player, I can tell you that there are LOTS of people that follow you. Keep it up. I would take that sort of post as encouragement. Am at a "regional" tourney, that we to fly to( or drive 10 hours) ......literally freezing on the court. I'm sorry you're getting such a mouthful. We in the trenches have some very legitimate stuff to complain about. Why on earth would any organization, with a paying membership, ignore the input? It's mind blowing. As we sit freezing in a ridiculous location, we will all discuss our complete and utter dissatisfaction with the Usta, and our complete gratification for Lisa, and her efforts.

  9. Just Stop - couple of things - its Geoff not Jeff and Mora not Morna... feel free to not read Lisa's blog or better still start your own!

  10. So Jeff, Antoni, and Lisa if you are so unhappy with the USTA and you are all so wealthy why don't you create a competing organization. I mean free enterprise and competition only is healthy. Other sports have multiple competing organizations and the customers can choose the better product. You can get Steve Bellemany to get WCs for winners of your circuits 18s hard courts into tournaments he used to own but lost to Dubai while in charge of the tennis channel. Work with the agents to provide wild cards to other ATP and WTA events. Let the customers choose what product is better.

  11. Just Stop - when you have lived in our shoes and have children who we are raising to be intelligent and honest kids who love the game of tennis, you just let me know why ANY OF US should STOP complaining about an organization that is single minded in its attempt to just find a needle in a haystack.

  12. Here's how the "logic" of "Just Stop" and "Competition is Healthy" works: for months after a decision is made, the USTA doesn't publicize or notify anyone affected by a decision until the last minute and, even then, in a way most TDs missed; parents have to figure it out on their own, then write about it to explain the changes and to help other parents and players; Parenting Aces publishes the information; but their conclusion is that it's somehow the parents and Lisa who are at fault. Brilliant. After "Just Stop's" obnoxious post, I make the point that Parenting Aces and the parents who post here are mostly trying to be constructive, but that supporters of the USTA's position on the 2014 changes keep debasing the discussion with insults, name-calling and schoolyard- bully behavior attacking even kids. "Competition is Healthy" then proves my point with another obnoxious post full of name-calling. "Competition is Healthy" also seems to miss the irony that his or her "handle" contradicts the position he or she supports: the biggest slashing of competition in USTA history. All of those attacked by these folks are trying to help make the USTA better. We want to work from within, not create competing organizations. Are we frustrated? Sure. But it's the arrogance of people like "Just Stop" and "Competition is Healthy" and their monopolistic behavior that are hurting our sport, not us.

  13. Let me encourage all of you - even Just Stop and Competition is Healthy! - to "Like" the Facebook page listed on the right side of the blog and engage in the conversations happening there. There are some very insightful posts and discussions that will, hopefully, lead USTA to the logical conclusion that the 2014 plan is not ready for public consumption just yet, that it needs more review, that USTA needs more input from those in the trenches, that it's better to get it done right rather than getting it done right now (to quote a fellow tennis parent). I still believe that everyone reading and commenting here wants what's best for tennis, junior tennis specifically. By working together toward a solution instead of trying to divide and conquer, we can achieve that goal.

  14. When I became a teaching pro in 1977 it was our mission to promote membership and volunteer for USTA initiatives. Everybody in the industry promoted the USTA. and helped it grow and garner the resources it has today. I got a 25 year volunteer award 10 years ago and now feel like I am public enemy#1 for criticizing the changes.It seems the USTA has turned on the people who helped build it before the organization went "corporate". To make these issues personal is very bad form. We love tennis and our children's participation in the sport so criticiism is out of constructive caring not hate. There are alot of valid points being made on Lisa's blog and different points of view should be respected. In fact the USTA can learn most from those that are actively engaged in the USTA tournament system., Historically, the parents were always involved in tournament changes and rules and regs because their opinions were actively sought out and many served on the boards and councils making these changes over the years. These discussions should be welcomed by the USTA and they should engage in the dialogue in order to get things right and promote their mission of 'growing the game'.

  15. Competition is healthy - if you don't want to "like" Tom Walkers Facebook page and you like competition so much why don't you set up a competing Facebook page in support of the changes and see how many "likes" you can drum up.

  16. Well again, here in the trenches. Competition is healthy...I'm trying to refrain myself as you bring up economics.....I am smashed into a hotel, really a motel room, with 5 people......having a blast. We have found a way to make it work, but it's not easy. But it's a heck of alot easier than relying on communication from the USTA. We loathe them.we all really do. Just wish we had less reason to.

  17. Tennis5 How did college coaches recruit when draws where 128? How did college coaches recruit Americans when there wasn't tennis recruiting.net? How did college coaches recruit when only 150 players rankings where published? Nobody has been able to explain this to me? If we go back to pre-1999 our kids where just fine.

  18. If we go back to pre-1999 our kids where just fine. Let's see we are in the year 2012, so that is 13 years from 1999. What changed? What has been trending up and up and up each year? Foreigners in college tennis. I am not against foreigners in college tennis, but think a cap of two would be more appropriate then an entire team of all foreigners. What else was different in 99 versus 2012? All the tournaments that one could enter to get into the sport. My son changed sports when he was about twelve. He was able to start competing when there were all these tournaments. All gone.

  19. Tennis5...College scholarships are a huge issue at this point and deservedly so...US tennis families "invest"/spend or however you want to say it... a lot of time and money producing a tennis player. In the end a NCAA tennis scholarship is "a return on investment"...I want every US family who has invested time and money into tennis for their child to get a college scholarship...but unfortunately this is not where the market place is....NCAA coaches are paid to win matches period....just like NCAA football, basketball, swimming, and gymnastics coaches etc....here are the problems with a 2 scholarship mandate (cap)....#1 it is a mandate (never good) #2 the USTA has no control as to what the NCAA does. #3 you can not carve out tennis in regards to the number of "foreign scholarships" as it would have to be universal throughout all NCAA sports and that will not work and is not going to happen. The only answer is for US tennis (and hopefully the USTA) to double, triple, and quadruple down in regards to the private sector producing high quality tennis players that can beat the international competition for NCAA scholarships.

    • Lawrence One of the biggest myths perpetrated by coaches who use foreign players is that the NCAA can't limit foreign players. It is simply untrue. We did it in Junior college sports and it has become the best thing we have ever done. Google what we did at the NjCAA. http://eligibilitycoach.hbcufannation.com/2011/10/18/international-student-athletes-will-be-limited-on-njcaa-rosters-as-of-august-1-2012/ For a decade plus, the ITA and a little bit the NCAA have said that there were legal issues around any limitations. We proved that theory completely wrong. NJCAA tennis was getting as bad as NCAA tennis and now at least the bleeding has stopped. The matches are much even, much more local (noticeable on the first match) and the team unity is more cohesive. The flavor of having a small amount of foreign athletes is great. Not subsidizing the rest of the worlds education for little in return is smarter.

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